posted by: Franz
Damn Cutter, that subliminal thought
transferr process I did on you worked. I'm gettin better at it.
For you speed freaks, don't even think of hooking up the DC welder to get
faster results. It is possible to boil the solution, and that really sucks
in a plastic tank. NO, I didn't do it, and had I been the speed freak who
did, I certainly wouldn't have posted that brilliant move.
I thought Soap Operas were supposed to drag along and keep you watching
more commercials.
You too can have a supply of Uncle Franz's new and improved Secret
Electrolyte concentrate shipped direct to your door, for only $99.95, plus
shipping, handling and anything else we can think of. If you order within
the next 15 minutes we'll include instructions for cooking hotdogs with an
electric cord and 2 nails.
posted by: fla jim
Just don't cook your hot dogs on a
"steel Bench"

posted by: Franz
Given where YOU work Jim, I wouldn't
cook anything on your bench.
posted by: Newb
Cutter, just make sure if this
continues to soap opera that you don't start doing this topless. Or at
least if you do, please don't post the pics.
posted
by Cutter 03-18-2004
What you better hope is that I don't do
it in shorts. 
I decided it was time to hang this old sucker up to get rid of all the air
& hydrogen gas pockets on the inside, assuming that is the problem as
Paychk suggested about 4 days ago. So I grunted it out of the tub one more
time and dollied it over to the log splitting area where I have an old
canopy frame set up that I can hang the war-stretcher from. I rinsed out a
garbage can and lowered the vise down so that it is just touching the
bottom & started a fresh batch of soda water. I brought another charger
home so I can start the smaller parts in the other tub. They should clean
up fairly quickly.

Five minutes later all that nice clean
water had turned milky with lots of green scum floating around
(11am Wednesday). I wonder if that might be grease from the threads? And
just for grins I grabbed
my camera & took a 5am (Thursday) nite-vision shot. Look at all that fresh
brown slime! Surely it's
coming from the cavity because there just wasn't that much left on the
outside. Of course, I switched
to a rusty chain & a foot or two of it is immersed now but still, there is
a lot of rust in that water.

Question about the long nut???
So now I have a question for the other
members of the Monster Vise build team: Can anyone tell
me how to remove the long nut? It will wiggle up & down or side to side
but it will not turn right or
left. I don't know if it is pinned or screwed in place?

posted by: OlPilot
Cutter my boss has an identical vise
and he says it's pinned. He rebuilt his also. It may be difficult to find
the pin.
Cutter, well, here's what I found out.
There is a pin on each side approximately in the area shown, symmetrically
located. They may be hard to find, so Bruce suggests polishing the area to shiney metal and using a cotton swab with nitric acid. The pin should show
up. The nut is shaped as shown, but the nut is cast and can be broken with
excessive force. (Bruce told me not to ask how he knew!)
The nut, at last count, costs $85!

P.S. forgot to mention - Bruce says the
two pins are only nut retention devices. They don't take any rotational
loads as the vise is tightened. The back flange of the nut is machined to
engage the bore to provide anti-rotation.
Art
posted by: 7018
On my search for a bigger vice than the
5 inch i found, I did find a 4 inch combo but the man wouldnt sell it!! he
said it was his Dads and he's 55 so its old i guess!!!!!!!
posted
by Cutter 03-19-2004
Thanks so much OP. You are indeed a
princely fellow. 
I had found an exploded view of a similar model on the Grainger site but
as you can see, it leaves a little
to the imagination. Last time I had the vise on the ground & let it dry
off well, I saw a little dimple that made
me wonder if there might be pins involved. This drawing confirmed that
(assuming the design holds
true for older models) but I was still not sure how far back on the cone
to expect to find them. I got a
little daylight left today so I think I'll go hoist it up and take a look.

quote:
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Originally posted by 7018
On my search for a bigger vice than the 5 inch i found, I did find a 4
inch combo but the man wouldnt sell it!! he said it was his Dads and he's
55 so its old i guess!!!!!!!
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Did you think to ask him if he would put you in his will?

posted by: 7018
Nope didnt do that but i mite !!! Good
thinking cutter.
posted
by Cutter 03-19-2004
Bingo!
quote:
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Originally posted by OlPilot
Cutter, well, here's what I found out. There is a pin on each side
approximately in the area shown, symmetrically located. They may be hard
to find, so Bruce suggests polishing the area to shiney metal and using a
cotton swab with nitric acid. The pin should show up. The nut is shaped as
shown, but the nut is cast and can be broken with excessive force. (Bruce
told me not to ask how he knew!)
The nut, at last count, costs $85!
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Hee hee hee! Got it out, OP. No problemma.
Pictures & details tomorrow, I have other things to do this evening.
Stay tuned, folks. As Franz says, this gives us a chance to do more
commercials.



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