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       posted by: pjt 
      Wonder how it would work to take a 
      piece of pvc pipe with a cap on one end, drill a bunch of holes (or cut 
      slotts), stick the anode inside the pipe, and shove the pipe inside the 
      vice??? 
       
      Re: internal anode 
       posted 
      by Cutter    03-14-2004 
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      Originally posted by pjt  
      Wonder how it would work to take a piece of pvc pipe with a cap on one 
      end, drill a bunch of holes (or cut slotts), stick the anode inside the 
      pipe, and shove the pipe inside the vice???  
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      pjt, 
       
      I was thinking more like a short piece of rubber hose stuck in each end as 
      insulators & the iron bar  
      slid through them. I had been entertaining that idea for several days. But 
      I really do think I had been  
      trapping air inside all week.  
       
      posted by: Newb 
      This thread just keeps getting better 
      every day. 
       
      Thanks for keeping us all posted on it. Gonna start mine on Tuesday if the 
      rain stops. 
       
      posted by: Paychk 
      Another possibility is the hydrogen gas 
      that is generated, is getting trapped in the cavity and pushing the 
      solution out. Maybe a deeper bucket with the opening pointed up will solve 
      everything. 
       
       posted 
      by Cutter    03-14-2004 
      !!! Hey now, that's a thought, too 
      Paychk. Thanks. 
      I really don't have anything that might do except a 5 gallon pickle bucket 
      (too shallow) or maybe a 30 gallon  
      garbage can. I am afraid the weight would over power either one. Have to 
      give it some thought.  
       
      posted by: Franz 
      Well Cutter you could always fab up a 
      nice frame to hang things in the garbage can. 
       
      posted by: 7018 
      Well all this over a walton vice made 
      me want one,I went looking!! found a Wilton 5" Combination Pipe & Bench 
      Vise!! I ran a search on it and came up with this,  
      Wilton 5" Combination Pipe & Bench Vise 
      Item Number: WILC-2  
      Normally Sells For: $1097.95  
      Our Price: $783.61  
       
      Now this is a old one but in good shape,came from a junk store in Fla. I 
      have 25.00 in it needs cleaning up alittle and some new paint. What you 
      all think bout this one? 
        
        
      It would have been nice to find one the 
      size of urs cutter But then u get what ya find! 
        
      Well guys this is the last one.Thanks 
      for looking and i wish u luck hunting a good vice!!! 
        
       
       posted 
      by Cutter    03-15-2004 
      Very cool 7018!! Or as they say on the 
      OWWM site "you Suck!". 
      That is their highest compliment on a great find.
        
      How about giving us some dimensions? Looks like a 5" jaw width but was is 
      your max opening, height,  
      weight & so forth. I wish there was some way of dating these things but I 
      don't see anything to go on. 
       
      I left mine out of the goop today - got a supposed emergency plumbing call 
      while I was fiddling with
      it & had to take off. Thought I'd have time to stop back by but got home 
      at 7 pm. I did have time to
      drop by one of my favorite scrap yards to pick a piece of 5/8ths rebar to 
      suspend though the center
      and a couple of mower blades to try as "electrodes" to collect the rust. 
      (I am not using the controversial
      anode/cathode words any more.) I couldn't find any other scrap lying 
      around here that I was willing to
      sacrifice whan a couple of bucks for junk would take care of it. 
       
       
      posted by: 7018 
      Well cutter they said 7 inch open but i 
      opened it to 8 1/2 inches and it will hold 4 inch pipe they said however i 
      havent tryed it as yet. got it out of the truck and took the pic.s so 
      thats all i know so far. And i was hoping to find out how old this thing 
      was! it has some weld splater on it but not much, all the jaw's look good 
      not to much wear. But like i said wish it had been bigger,i'll stell be 
      looking for a bigger one. And thanks for the reply 
       
      posted by: Jim314 
      Newb is right. This is a great thread. 
      Kinda like a soap opera, you have to tune in everyday to see if anything 
      new has happened to the vise. 
       
       posted 
      by Cutter    03-17-2004 
      Oh WOW! A sopa opera! Maybe I can get 
      my own TV show - "Monster Vice". Move along Jesse,
      you had your run.   And I 
      do have a small development to report this morning.
      I mentioned a few posts ago that I finally found a bar to insert into the 
      cavity as an electrode to
      try & get the rust out of the inside where the worst crud appears to be 
      holding it stuck together. I
      had to have some way to fasten a wire to it, so I ground the plating off a 
      1/4" bolt, ground a
      flat on the end of the rebar and tacked it together to make a binding 
      post. Then I slipped a
      couple of pieces of heater hose onto it to insulate the bar from the vise. 
      After I slid the rebar into
      the hole, I used an ohmmeter to be sure the bar wasn't touching the vise 
      body & found that I needed  
      extra rubber at the front end to assure that the bar didn't contact the 
      vise. 
       
      Finally I hoisted it back into the tub, hooked it up and the bubbles 
      started appearing in less than a
      minute but the current drain dropped from 7 amps to about 1 1/2 in just a 
      few hours. I checked on
      it at about 4:30 am & turned the charger off because this drop in current 
      usually means the electrode
      is loaded with rust & I don't especially want it "growing" into the long 
      nut & shorting to it; I just don't
      know what the effect of that might be. I also didn't particularly want to 
      dive into that slimy mess this
      time of the morning to find out. By the way, if you're the impatient 
      "type-A" sort of personality,
      this process may not be for you.
        
      
        
       
      posted by: atucker 
      Cutter, 
       
      If you're going to do a soap opera, do the soap opera and to heck with the 
      regular job. We need action, not excuses.  
       
      IMPATIENT - NEVER   
       
      Not sure if you had the other "electrode" hooked up or not, but when I was 
      playing around with this before, the current seems to be proportional to 
      the electrode "area". Of course, the smaller the electrode, the faster 
      they slime up and the current drops. This is process can definitely test 
      ones patience. But it works! 
       
      
       
       
        
        
        
      
       
         
       
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