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posted by: atucker
Cutter,
Be patient - when Franz first posted this procedure over at Hobart (last
May), my son had just got a car from a friend. The trunk had water
standing in the spare wheel well. We recovered the scissor type jack that
had been submerged for who knows how long. The thing was total rust. The
screw type shaft was locked tight, wouldn't budge. I took it home and took
my first stab at Franz's procedure. Washing soda was easy to find here at
most grocery stores. My initial reaction was like yours - what a nasty
mess. In about 24 hours the shaft was free. I was amazed at how the
process worked within the threaded part of it that was rusted. I guess we
could call it the screw and the nut - the internal parts that weren't
visible when it was still locked up. I let it go for another 24 hrs. and
it was pretty darn clean. My son and I were both amazed. Painted it and it
works great. From the looks of your vise, it doesn't look like you need to
be in any hurry. I don't know how long it will take, but just give it
time.
Allen T.
posted by: Newb
I imagine while this needs to be done
in a ventilated area, that care needs to be taken as to where it is done
right? After all, anything that would touch the water would get a strong
jolt, so if there's any squirrels or dogs running around looking for a
free drink (or kids playing) they'd get a nasty surprise. Just want to
make sure I have my basis covered. As soon as cutter gets done, I'm going
to try it, so I'm itchin in my kitchen to try it.
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by Cutter 03-08-2004
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Originally posted by Newb
I imagine while this needs to be done in a ventilated area, that care
needs to be taken as to where it is done right? After all, anything that
would touch the water would get a strong jolt, so if there's any squirrels
or dogs running around looking for a free drink (or kids playing) they'd
get a nasty surprise. Just want to make sure I have my basis covered. As
soon as cutter gets done, I'm going to try it, so I'm itchin in my kitchen
to try it.
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Yep, it releases hydrogen gas, somewhat explosive when
confined I hear. Don't care
to test it myself so I am doing this outside & that's also why I didn't
start last week.
It rained off & on all week.
The water is nasty looking but really not all that caustic. I wouldn't
want to soak in it
but I have to get my hands in it to move that chunk of iron around. Just
wash it off right
away & no harm done. I have a ten year old dog & a dumbass of a 6 month
old puppy. He took
one whiff of it and shied away immediately; this is the dog that never met
a fluid he didn't want
to taste-test - before now. I'm not worried about him. Kids? - I don't
know about & that's
another reason its in my back yard.
Okay, I got a couple of "in progress"
pictures. I managed to wrestle the beast out of the
soup without straining my uterus or anything at about the 22 hour mark,
yesterday afternoon. I
rigged up a crude tripod & used an old wire-stretcher from my antique tool
collection to
temporarily suspend it by the moving jaw, hoping its own weight would
begin to free up the slide.
No luck yet. Banging on it didn't help either. So I laid it down & got a
few shots to show you.
Here is a side view:
In the picture in the previous post, you can see that I
lightly wire brushed the ball shaped area
on the left side of the pic, on the moving jaw. That was with a few
strokes using a hand-powered
brush so the rust is dissolving pretty fast. I thought this might
encourage some of you who said
you are waiting to see how this turns out before you give it a try. Here
is a closer look where
you can plainly see the process is working very well:
The best news of the 22 hour report is that I was able
to get 2 of the 3 broken collar screws out
of the jaw. These are the screws that once held the retaining collar which
keeps the main screw
locked into the moving jaw. (The collar is missing.) The top screw is
broken off flush. Think of
the vise grips as being at the 9 o'clock position; the flush-broke screw
is at 12 o'clock & three
o'clock is protruding from the casting. I'll leave the problematic one
until I am finished soaking
the whole thing, then figure out how to get a grip on it. I was very happy
to get the first two
out so soon.
posted by: Newb
looks great so far, just got back from
purchasing my ingredients and got an old storage bin ready to go.
posted by: Paychk
Cutter to get the flush broken screw
out, find some left hand twist drills and use a reversable drill. That
screw will probably un-thread will you drill it.
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posted by
Cutter 03-08-2004
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Originally posted by Newb
looks great so far, just got back from purchasing my ingredients and got
an old storage bin ready to go.
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Hey Newb, I don't mean this to sound too elementary, but you do mean a
plastic storage bin, don't you?
Paychk, I have never owned a left-hand drill bit. I doubt that it will
take very much torque to
back that screw out by the time its soaked that long.
OlPilot, got any idea where I might find that missing collar, yoke,
whatever? Also the handles
are missing from the hold down nuts and the end cap is long gone. I can
eventually make
a collar that will do I think, but finding some day light to do it is a
problem right now.
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Originally posted by Franz
Come to think of it Cutter, it would be better if you just crate that vise
up and ship it to me so I can give it a decent burial at the end of a
bench.
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I have given some thought to your offer, Franz, As scarred up as this old
dog is, I'd be
embarrassed for you to have to pay the freight on it just to do that for
me. How
about if I wait until I fly up to NY sometime in May & just slip it into
my carryon?
I doubt anyone would notice.
posted by: Franz
Cutter, if you wanna slip it in the
carryon that'll work just fine.
Don't forget to bring all the parts.
posted by: Newb
Yes, it's a plastic bin, thanks for
asking.
posted by: Mike W
Cutter, 20 parts water and one part
muriatic acid would work faster.
posted by: Newb
When we getting an update Cutter? Your
wife didn't serve you that for dinner did she?
posted by: OlPilot
Cutter, this is the best address I
could find. Don't know if they can help with parts. I tend to think Wilton
has been gobbled up and is mostly offshore now.
WILTON TOOL GROUP
300 S Hicks Rd
Palatine, IL 60067
Phone: 847-934-6000
Fax: 847-934-6730
A few years ago, my boss bought parts for what appears to be an identical
vise. I'll see if he can remember where he got them.
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