Cutter's Vise

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posted by Cutter    05-01-2004

Thanks for the thoughts, pjt. But Yes and Yes. It has brand new scars from my hammering on it. Even brought an air chisel home and sawed one of the tips down blunt & tried to vibrate some life into it.
Got a stick of dynamite you'd like to contribute?


posted by: Mike W

I read that one way to break loose a flywheel one a small engine is to take a air hammer with a pointed tool in it. You hold the flywheel and let the air chisel point bang on the end of the shaft. It is supposed to make the flywheel pop right off.

Perhaps you could do something similiar on a larger scale. You don't want to loose your stubborn nutcase status.


posted by: fla jim

Cutter:
Here's the link to Kroil.
http://www.kanolaboratories.com/
It's a super good penetrant. I get it locally from the guy I get all my bullets, powder and reloading supplies from. It makes a good rust preventive. The say it will penetrate one millionth of an inch.
You could drill and tap and install some zerk fittings in several places. I think the key to using penetrant is "time" to let the stuff do it's work. I'd be patient, and let it soak for about a month, while filling the zerks every day.  When you get it free, remove the zerks. Install some pipe plugs. Saw them off. Grind them flush to match the vise contour. when you paint it you'll never see where the holes were.


posted by Cutter    05-01-2004

Paint it???? Paint it! Hmph.

I had thought of pipe plugs but you know, it wouldn't hurt a thing to be able to grease it once in a while.

Thanks for the link, dunno why I didn't think to do a search.


posted by: pjt

Kroil wants to send you a free sample! Here's the address:
https://secure.cnchost.com/kanolabs.com/order_kroil.shtml


posted by: stingers

As one buzzard said to the other buzzard “patience hell-let’s kill something.”

I doubt that any anti-cease, de-ruster is going to get between the parts. Get some charcoal-several bags and get it burning in a steel drum cut off to make a fire pot or build a wood fire in a pit until there is a bed of coals. Lower the vise by chains, movable (??) jaw up, into the coals and let the vise get red hot. Then hoist it up and smack the vise body with your big sledge.

Option 2; Drill the key out! Then try twisting the movable jaw and the vise while pushing with the jack.


posted by Cutter    05-02-2004

Ummm,
The heat option might work; I've been thinking about something along that line. But drilling out the key? Bear in mind it is about a foot long. That's why I said the bottom is where it is stuck the worst - I think.


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Originally posted by Mike W
I read that one way to break loose a flywheel one a small engine is to take a air hammer with a pointed tool in it. You hold the flywheel and let the air chisel point bang on the end of the shaft. It is supposed to make the flywheel pop right off.

Perhaps you could do something similiar on a larger scale. You don't want to loose your stubborn nutcase status.

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Well, I can appreciate the sentiment but this vise doesn't have a tapered shaft in a matching aluminum flywheel. A sharp rap with a hammer does the same thing, but you could beat this thing to pieces before it popped apart.


posted by: Franz

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I think the time has come for submerging in diesel fuel for a month or so.

Geez, I take the evening off to go check out Martina McBride, and you guys go nuts wantin to sledgomatic a poor vise. This thing didn't get stuck over night, and it ain't gonna get unstuck quick either.


posted by: stingers

Hi Cutter;

I offered the drill the key out as a last resort kind of thing, as if the "red hot" method isn't. There are drill bits long enough to do the job. The price of a few of those grade 8 bolts.

Where I worked they had a method of burning? broken taps or bolts out of parts when they broke off down in a part or die. I never saw how they did it, but know there is a way. I don't know how deep a hole it would work in. I don't know it that method could burn the key out. Can you see the front end of the key-way or is the movable jaw too close? If you could get the key removed, then there might be hope for a solvent to get to the bore.


posted by: terry lingle

I will second the diesel fuel you can heat the vice up to about 250 -300 before submerging it that may help it penetrate . also set it in a hot location as raised temperatures will thin out the diesel and aid penitration. Terry


posted by: Sirarcalot

I'm with Franz. Try the diesel fuel before drilling or heating.

I've heard that Kroil was good stuff.

I've also seen some amazing results from PB magnetic penetrating catalyst. I got it at Wall Mart. I've seen this stuff climb into threads rusty threads and loosen stuck bolts in a matter of seconds.

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posted by: rusted

Where did you get that again? I didn't catch it? Kmart?

Just joshin ya, I'll have to check that stuff out, sounds cool.


posted by: Sirarcalot

Man Rusted, your fast. I didn't even get time to proof read it.


posted by: rusted

I didn't notice, I just clicked the thread and it was there, didn't mean to be too fast. Sorry!


 


 

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